GoneSouth
03-21 10:40 AM
Hi Nickhil,
See my response on this other thread (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3625). I think the only way you can get a second PERM approved for same employee at same company, is if the second position is "significantly different" from the first position. E.g., at least a different job title and different job description, but ideally completely different o*net code. Note that your problem will be with DoL at the LC stage, not USCIS at the I-140 stage. DoL will not approve a second PERM app for same employee at same company if position is substantially similar.
You *might* be able to get approval for a second PERM with similar job description if you completely withdraw the first PERM. I'm not sure if you can withdraw a PERM certification after its been used for an I-140 though.
With trickier cases like this, I've always found it helpful to get second and sometimes third opinions from attorneys at other firms.
- gs
See my response on this other thread (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3625). I think the only way you can get a second PERM approved for same employee at same company, is if the second position is "significantly different" from the first position. E.g., at least a different job title and different job description, but ideally completely different o*net code. Note that your problem will be with DoL at the LC stage, not USCIS at the I-140 stage. DoL will not approve a second PERM app for same employee at same company if position is substantially similar.
You *might* be able to get approval for a second PERM with similar job description if you completely withdraw the first PERM. I'm not sure if you can withdraw a PERM certification after its been used for an I-140 though.
With trickier cases like this, I've always found it helpful to get second and sometimes third opinions from attorneys at other firms.
- gs
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logiclife
07-17 04:14 PM
Congrats Retrohatao.
What's depressing about the process is that it takes so long for greencard that people dont even remember their priority date by the time they get greencards.
Retrohatao has posted PD of his first GC file as :"Sometime in 1998". Note the word sometime.
This word, "Sometime" shows the delay.
In America, glaciers move faster then the Greencard process.
That's the reason Universities are going to pay a dear price of all this when the next generation of potential students and research scholars dont come here.
What's depressing about the process is that it takes so long for greencard that people dont even remember their priority date by the time they get greencards.
Retrohatao has posted PD of his first GC file as :"Sometime in 1998". Note the word sometime.
This word, "Sometime" shows the delay.
In America, glaciers move faster then the Greencard process.
That's the reason Universities are going to pay a dear price of all this when the next generation of potential students and research scholars dont come here.
sbabunle
11-06 05:54 PM
check_rd,
Its strange. I applied the same time. And I got it.
thanks
Its strange. I applied the same time. And I got it.
thanks
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Pagal
02-02 02:33 PM
:) Yes, one of the founding principles of USA "No taxation without representation" has gone down the drain for all 'temporary' workers...
Some countries have tax treaties with USA whereby, their citizens are not required to pay medicare/social security taxes, wonder if India can have such a treaty...
Some countries have tax treaties with USA whereby, their citizens are not required to pay medicare/social security taxes, wonder if India can have such a treaty...
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Green06
10-15 11:35 AM
DMV laws vary from State to State. When I lived in CA they gave me 5+ yrs of DL but In my home state of Minnesota DMV puts status chek date on the DL which is the date of the I94 expiration. They send a letter at home to show the proof of extension otherwise the DL will be cancelled. I am planning to get it extended by using EAD (i haven't received EAD yet and my H1b extension is being applied). I read on Murthy's site that using EAD for DMV pupose doesn't affect the H1b status.
nortam1
09-14 06:37 PM
Same boat here all.
J Barrett 10:25am Jul 2nd
No NOTHING received....
J Barrett 10:25am Jul 2nd
No NOTHING received....
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sundarpn
08-01 11:44 PM
EB3 with PD of July 2006. I-140 Approved. 485 +EAD+AP filed 2 weeks ago.
I was contemplating on job change before dates became current in June and decision to accept 485....
Now that 485 is filed and this DUST has settled, wondering whether all this is worth the wait. (even 180 days).
Currently in my 5th year of H1b, by waiting out the 6 months, I'll also get 3 yr h1b ext. (and hopefully ead by then).
So is waiting 180 days the best choice? or screw all this and change! (I dunno if this AC21 etc etc is practical...same job description etc)
(I am single and those complexities are not to be considered I guess yet.
Plan is to try and change jobs on H1b and use EAD only if there is a dire need like layoff to find another job quicker)
I was contemplating on job change before dates became current in June and decision to accept 485....
Now that 485 is filed and this DUST has settled, wondering whether all this is worth the wait. (even 180 days).
Currently in my 5th year of H1b, by waiting out the 6 months, I'll also get 3 yr h1b ext. (and hopefully ead by then).
So is waiting 180 days the best choice? or screw all this and change! (I dunno if this AC21 etc etc is practical...same job description etc)
(I am single and those complexities are not to be considered I guess yet.
Plan is to try and change jobs on H1b and use EAD only if there is a dire need like layoff to find another job quicker)
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03-05 06:58 PM
Wait for obamacare to pass !!
btw her location will be @ Portland, Oregon.
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btw her location will be @ Portland, Oregon.
Regards
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02-05 11:26 AM
Thanks. I'll check it out.
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patriot01
09-27 10:39 AM
I am kind of in the same situation...But, I don't know if the status means what it says.
But, I got the status change in Jul 2008 saying that
'the post office returned the notice we last sent you on this case I-485 application to register permanent residence or to adjust status as undeliverable. This may have serious effects on processing this case....'
The very next day I got this case status change saying that..
'We mailed document to the address we have on file, You should receive the new document within 30 days.....'
I took an InfoPass appointment and explained to them the case status emails. I also told them that I didn't get my biometrics notice. They asked me if priority date is current..I said NO and they verified too. So, they took the "document mailed" as the biometrics notice document and took my biometrics. I never bothered about that since then....
But, with new system change it shows as 'Document Ordered or Oath ceremony'. So I am not sure what the original case status changes emails were about...and take the status 'Document Ordered or Oath ceremony' seriously.
I haven't added my wife as a dependent applicant too when I filed my I-485.
Thanks in advance.
But, I got the status change in Jul 2008 saying that
'the post office returned the notice we last sent you on this case I-485 application to register permanent residence or to adjust status as undeliverable. This may have serious effects on processing this case....'
The very next day I got this case status change saying that..
'We mailed document to the address we have on file, You should receive the new document within 30 days.....'
I took an InfoPass appointment and explained to them the case status emails. I also told them that I didn't get my biometrics notice. They asked me if priority date is current..I said NO and they verified too. So, they took the "document mailed" as the biometrics notice document and took my biometrics. I never bothered about that since then....
But, with new system change it shows as 'Document Ordered or Oath ceremony'. So I am not sure what the original case status changes emails were about...and take the status 'Document Ordered or Oath ceremony' seriously.
I haven't added my wife as a dependent applicant too when I filed my I-485.
Thanks in advance.
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loudobbs
07-17 05:18 PM
A. STATUTORY NUMBERS
1. This bulletin summarizes the availability of immigrant numbers during August. Consular officers are required to report to the Department of State documentarily qualified applicants for numerically limited visas; the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services in the Department of Homeland Security reports applicants for adjustment of status. Allocations were made, to the extent possible under the numerical limitations, for the demand received by July 13th in the chronological order of the reported priority dates. If the demand could not be satisfied within the statutory or regulatory limits, the category or foreign state in which demand was excessive was deemed oversubscribed. The cut-off date for an oversubscribed category is the priority date of the first applicant who could not be reached within the numerical limits. Only applicants who have a priority date earlier than the cut-off date may be allotted a number. Immediately that it becomes necessary during the monthly allocation process to retrogress a cut-off date, supplemental requests for numbers will be honored only if the priority date falls within the new cut-off date.
Does this mean all AOS applications received or only consular processing cases??
1. This bulletin summarizes the availability of immigrant numbers during August. Consular officers are required to report to the Department of State documentarily qualified applicants for numerically limited visas; the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services in the Department of Homeland Security reports applicants for adjustment of status. Allocations were made, to the extent possible under the numerical limitations, for the demand received by July 13th in the chronological order of the reported priority dates. If the demand could not be satisfied within the statutory or regulatory limits, the category or foreign state in which demand was excessive was deemed oversubscribed. The cut-off date for an oversubscribed category is the priority date of the first applicant who could not be reached within the numerical limits. Only applicants who have a priority date earlier than the cut-off date may be allotted a number. Immediately that it becomes necessary during the monthly allocation process to retrogress a cut-off date, supplemental requests for numbers will be honored only if the priority date falls within the new cut-off date.
Does this mean all AOS applications received or only consular processing cases??
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karthiknv143
06-25 01:37 PM
Regarding affidavits, scanned copy is good enough.
Regarding passport, it might be an issue. My company & my friend's company asked to renew the passport if it is less than 6 months of expiry time.
You still have time to renew. Just a matter of 2days work if you go directly to the Indian consulate.....
Regarding passport, it might be an issue. My company & my friend's company asked to renew the passport if it is less than 6 months of expiry time.
You still have time to renew. Just a matter of 2days work if you go directly to the Indian consulate.....
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jonty_11
01-18 12:53 PM
yes, everything is possible with USCIS but not at I-485 stage!! You can't say at I-485 why can't you hire americans?? They have to give different reason for denial.
and trust me they will find one....
BTW - Canadian Dollar is doing better that USD...!!!!
and trust me they will find one....
BTW - Canadian Dollar is doing better that USD...!!!!
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07-14 07:38 PM
s/he like to think of europe as one entity
not sure a lot of europeans will agree though :-)
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tinuverma
11-09 02:44 PM
Guys
I am still waiting for an answer here..which date would be the AOS...july 23rd or oct 17th?
I am still waiting for an answer here..which date would be the AOS...july 23rd or oct 17th?
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ag11
09-04 04:08 PM
In one of my friend's case they approved H1 for 6 months, because he had contract only for 6 months. He just completed 3 years and this is his first extension request. :eek: Who the hell in this world writes contract for more than 6 months even if they have requirements for next 2 years.
Another case I heard was immigration officer at POE granted only 1 year I-94 even though he had 2 years left in his visa. It seems IO spoke to candidates manager and advised him to hire someone locally and get him trained within a year.
Are we in real United States of America? So much of hate around.
Which service center was your friend from? California Service Center is said to be the most restrictive one and they have been giving out H1B only for the duration of contracts. This doesn't make any sense as who in this consulting world and in this economy can give a commitment for a full 3 years of H1B extension. Vermont is supposed to be more liberal as compared to California, but we can never tell.
My company filed for a 7 yr extension of H1B and I received an RFE. RFE has become the norm for H1B for 90% of cases for all consulting companies. My lawyer was smart to predict in advance that I should expect an RFE.
On POE, many of my friends have been harrassed recently. They have been racially profiled and questioned. Better to have all your documentation with you. You might want to condider visiting the immigration office to explain to them that the date on i94 seems to be a mistake as the visa is for 2 full years. They did the same mistake on mine with the year, but I point out right there and he corrected it.
Good luck
Another case I heard was immigration officer at POE granted only 1 year I-94 even though he had 2 years left in his visa. It seems IO spoke to candidates manager and advised him to hire someone locally and get him trained within a year.
Are we in real United States of America? So much of hate around.
Which service center was your friend from? California Service Center is said to be the most restrictive one and they have been giving out H1B only for the duration of contracts. This doesn't make any sense as who in this consulting world and in this economy can give a commitment for a full 3 years of H1B extension. Vermont is supposed to be more liberal as compared to California, but we can never tell.
My company filed for a 7 yr extension of H1B and I received an RFE. RFE has become the norm for H1B for 90% of cases for all consulting companies. My lawyer was smart to predict in advance that I should expect an RFE.
On POE, many of my friends have been harrassed recently. They have been racially profiled and questioned. Better to have all your documentation with you. You might want to condider visiting the immigration office to explain to them that the date on i94 seems to be a mistake as the visa is for 2 full years. They did the same mistake on mine with the year, but I point out right there and he corrected it.
Good luck
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reddog
10-18 02:15 PM
When they do FP, they tries to match with criminal database. Why do they want to match to the Port of entry or Security clearance database and give RED color warning. I think it is something you need to work with your attorney. Even in Name check, they tries to match with Criminal first, middle or last names and if match found, they do some investigation on your case. Same logic goes with FP. They won't match with good records, but they tries to search in bad records. It is simple common sense. Nothing to panic, but check with your attorney.
That is so not true, you are linking this to the criminal database?
SO as soon as the finger printing is done, within a fraction of a second, they match your fingerprints to the criminals and even let you know that by displaying a Red sign.
Leos link has the answer, the red match found error is simply an error between your finger prints taken together and then done individually.
The Service rep also individually goes thru all the FPs to check if the FPs taken together match those done individually.
That is so not true, you are linking this to the criminal database?
SO as soon as the finger printing is done, within a fraction of a second, they match your fingerprints to the criminals and even let you know that by displaying a Red sign.
Leos link has the answer, the red match found error is simply an error between your finger prints taken together and then done individually.
The Service rep also individually goes thru all the FPs to check if the FPs taken together match those done individually.
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09-10 03:12 PM
Most of you know about rear view mirror fuzzy dice cubes
I believe they can be customized too. for eg:
http://www.mascotfactory.com/store/Fuzzy-Dice.php?gclid=COaS8Kbv0ZUCFQJNagod3Gl7hg
I was wondering , if instead of a flowers campaign or bath tub stoppers and other ideas, how about if we send customized fuzzy dice cubes to uscis, which they can hang in their cars and see our message 'in their face' all the time. Hopefully after seeing the messages day after day our point gets driven home into their heads.
I was thinking we should have the faces of the dice cubes custom marked with the following 'F' motto messages
'Fair'
'Fast'
'Forward'
'Flexible'
'Fix'
'Flawless'
And send the following open letter to accompany the fuzzy cubes (May be even take full/half page ads out in newspapers, newsletters etc). I just put some ideas I had. The gurus can always add more to this.
Dear USCIS,
Please accept our token gift. We hope you would adopt the following traits as your motto.
'Fair'
- Be Fair
- Follow the FIFO order of priority dates.
- You have already set a prioritization order in place. Its the Priority Dates. We dont need another confusing set of priorities such as receipt dates/notice dates, processing dates that swing back and forth worse than a pendulum etc.
- How is it fair that you prioritize a PD 2006 over a PD 2001 case, just because the former's I-485 application was received few weeks earlier than the latter?
'Fast'
- Be Fast
- Most of us in the legal highly skilled immigrant community have been waiting for our GCs for an average of more than 5-6 years. Give us some relief
- Dont pull us from one backlog (labor approvals) only to dump us into another (I-485 Processing backlog)
- Follow your own rules regarding namecheck clearances and automatic eligibility of I-485 for approval if pending more than 180 days.
'Forward'
- Make forward progress
- EB3 I PDs haven't moved even few months in past several years
- EB2 I/C PDs are swinging like a pendulum
- Nobody understands how come processing dates at a service center can retrogress if files are opened in proper FIFO order
'Flexible'
- Be flexible
- Allow us to use AP as a regular travel document
- Recapture wasted visas
- Allow to file I-485 irrespective of PD being current
- Clarify AC 21 scenarios
- Make provisions to capture and count our waiting times in the GC process towards naturalization requirements. Most of us have been in US for 8-10 years average. How much longer do you need to naturalize us ??
' Fix'
- Fix the broken processes at USCIS
- Increase resources at the service centers
- Improve the customer service over telephone
- Be courteous to your customers
'Flawless'
- Provide flawless service.
- The highly skilled legal immigrant community deserves it. We pay millions of dollars in application fees to your orgnization and billions in tax dollars and Soc. Sec contributions to the US govt.
- Make online status updates more transparent.
- Provide more transparency around the processing dates, Visa number assignments, PDs, etc
We would have sent you nintendo game cubes instead of the fuzzy dice cubes. But alas, we are afraid we can't afford to risk any further drop in efficiency at your organization than the levels that it already is at.
Sincerely
Your customers
I believe they can be customized too. for eg:
http://www.mascotfactory.com/store/Fuzzy-Dice.php?gclid=COaS8Kbv0ZUCFQJNagod3Gl7hg
I was wondering , if instead of a flowers campaign or bath tub stoppers and other ideas, how about if we send customized fuzzy dice cubes to uscis, which they can hang in their cars and see our message 'in their face' all the time. Hopefully after seeing the messages day after day our point gets driven home into their heads.
I was thinking we should have the faces of the dice cubes custom marked with the following 'F' motto messages
'Fair'
'Fast'
'Forward'
'Flexible'
'Fix'
'Flawless'
And send the following open letter to accompany the fuzzy cubes (May be even take full/half page ads out in newspapers, newsletters etc). I just put some ideas I had. The gurus can always add more to this.
Dear USCIS,
Please accept our token gift. We hope you would adopt the following traits as your motto.
'Fair'
- Be Fair
- Follow the FIFO order of priority dates.
- You have already set a prioritization order in place. Its the Priority Dates. We dont need another confusing set of priorities such as receipt dates/notice dates, processing dates that swing back and forth worse than a pendulum etc.
- How is it fair that you prioritize a PD 2006 over a PD 2001 case, just because the former's I-485 application was received few weeks earlier than the latter?
'Fast'
- Be Fast
- Most of us in the legal highly skilled immigrant community have been waiting for our GCs for an average of more than 5-6 years. Give us some relief
- Dont pull us from one backlog (labor approvals) only to dump us into another (I-485 Processing backlog)
- Follow your own rules regarding namecheck clearances and automatic eligibility of I-485 for approval if pending more than 180 days.
'Forward'
- Make forward progress
- EB3 I PDs haven't moved even few months in past several years
- EB2 I/C PDs are swinging like a pendulum
- Nobody understands how come processing dates at a service center can retrogress if files are opened in proper FIFO order
'Flexible'
- Be flexible
- Allow us to use AP as a regular travel document
- Recapture wasted visas
- Allow to file I-485 irrespective of PD being current
- Clarify AC 21 scenarios
- Make provisions to capture and count our waiting times in the GC process towards naturalization requirements. Most of us have been in US for 8-10 years average. How much longer do you need to naturalize us ??
' Fix'
- Fix the broken processes at USCIS
- Increase resources at the service centers
- Improve the customer service over telephone
- Be courteous to your customers
'Flawless'
- Provide flawless service.
- The highly skilled legal immigrant community deserves it. We pay millions of dollars in application fees to your orgnization and billions in tax dollars and Soc. Sec contributions to the US govt.
- Make online status updates more transparent.
- Provide more transparency around the processing dates, Visa number assignments, PDs, etc
We would have sent you nintendo game cubes instead of the fuzzy dice cubes. But alas, we are afraid we can't afford to risk any further drop in efficiency at your organization than the levels that it already is at.
Sincerely
Your customers
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raysaikat
08-13 08:27 PM
1) The award you submitted was academic in nature. USCIS maintains that student awards such as fellowships, scholarships do not meet this criteria. Do you have anythingelse that is nationally recognized? Show me the evidence.
2) You submitted your work at research meetings. That is what researchers are supposed to do. How is your work is above and beyond what is out there in those meetings? "Consequently, it does not follow that all scientists who are asked to present their findings enjoy sustained acclaim in their field". Show me how your presentation history exceeds others.
3) Show the clear evidence that you have performed a leading and critical role in your organization.
4) You published several papers. But scientists are supposed to publish and dessiminate their work. Please resubmit updated citation listing. Please submit objective listing that your publication history exceeds the rest of the field.
Gurus... do I have a chance with these questions. I don't have any other national or international award such as Presidential Medal or Nobel Prize.
My presentation at international conferences are posters. Nothing great such as plenary talk.
I can submit more evidence of publications and citations.
Letter about my role and responsibilities as leader in my institution.
Thats it. Do I have a chance?
Anything can happen, but looks unlikely. How many publications do you have, and how many citations each paper has received? How many recommendation letters and from whom did you submit?
BTW: if the "award" is a standard university scholarship, that would not fly.
2) You submitted your work at research meetings. That is what researchers are supposed to do. How is your work is above and beyond what is out there in those meetings? "Consequently, it does not follow that all scientists who are asked to present their findings enjoy sustained acclaim in their field". Show me how your presentation history exceeds others.
3) Show the clear evidence that you have performed a leading and critical role in your organization.
4) You published several papers. But scientists are supposed to publish and dessiminate their work. Please resubmit updated citation listing. Please submit objective listing that your publication history exceeds the rest of the field.
Gurus... do I have a chance with these questions. I don't have any other national or international award such as Presidential Medal or Nobel Prize.
My presentation at international conferences are posters. Nothing great such as plenary talk.
I can submit more evidence of publications and citations.
Letter about my role and responsibilities as leader in my institution.
Thats it. Do I have a chance?
Anything can happen, but looks unlikely. How many publications do you have, and how many citations each paper has received? How many recommendation letters and from whom did you submit?
BTW: if the "award" is a standard university scholarship, that would not fly.
immm
07-13 01:35 PM
I think it is in the best interest of ImmigrationVoice and its members that offensive and derogatory messages be deleted/banned as they serve to harm the group as a whole.
However, the statement quoted below, if used out of context, will serve to be just as detrimental to ImmigrationVoice and its members because Free speech is the hallmark of this great country.
I would recommend that this statement be rephrased to say that while ImmigrationVoice champions the free speech, it is in the best interest of its members that the offensive posts be censored :
Immigration Voice neither promises nor practices "Free speech" and "First amendment rights"
However, the statement quoted below, if used out of context, will serve to be just as detrimental to ImmigrationVoice and its members because Free speech is the hallmark of this great country.
I would recommend that this statement be rephrased to say that while ImmigrationVoice champions the free speech, it is in the best interest of its members that the offensive posts be censored :
Immigration Voice neither promises nor practices "Free speech" and "First amendment rights"
Abhinaym
10-05 10:56 AM
I doubt if it'll be a GC process for illegals. I guess at best that would be a temp visa.
If it is a GC, then there's no way they can give illegals preference over legals. In this case we're a little screwed since the lines will be filled with people (who can prove they've been longer than us)
If it's a temp visa, we're still screwed - because of the additional processing, they may not process GCs as fast (!) as they're doing now.
That's my speculation so far.
If it is a GC, then there's no way they can give illegals preference over legals. In this case we're a little screwed since the lines will be filled with people (who can prove they've been longer than us)
If it's a temp visa, we're still screwed - because of the additional processing, they may not process GCs as fast (!) as they're doing now.
That's my speculation so far.
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